Barley & Me

Episode 78: Patrick Lawrence of Oregon Mead & Cider Company and Creator Carolyn Main

July 25, 2018

Host Ben Rice travels to Portland, Oregon, to drop in on Patrick Lawrence of Oregon Mead & Cider Company, with comedian, artist, podcaster, card game creator, and general creative Carolyn Main, to discuss the wonderful world of mead, a Barley & Me first! We talk the mead-creation process and how it compares to beer, cider, braggot, and more, plus the surprising ingredient that can cause cross-contamination and the importance of bees to mead and the world's food supply. And, as is par for the course, we trash the Star Wars prequels while talking about Carolyn's latest card game creation, Pitch Please!, where you create a movie pitch based on movie tropes. We also delve into Patrick's multiple jobs that have, despite his best efforts, centered around any and all kinds of apples, planned obsolescence in technology, and the fermentation tank naming process. All this and more, on episode 78 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!

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