Barley & Me

Episode 120: Mike Ungerbuhler, Micah Ochej & Calvin Crawford of Tower Brewing & Producer Cindy Baker

February 17, 2020

Host Ben Rice travels to Sacramento, CA's Tower Brewing to talk to TV/radio/podcast producer Cindy Baker, plus Tower Brewing crew Mike Ungerbuhler (head brewer), Micah Ochej (brewer), and Calvin Crawford (taproom manager) about creativity, commitment to passions, and how your backgrounds help you build to your present and future. Plus! Buying Rubicon IP(A), rum varieties, why it feels worse when someone is disappointed in you instead of mad at you, the rise and fall of Brut IPA, and an odd first/fourth anniversary. All this and more, on episode 120 of Barley & Me. Enjoy

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Tower Brewing: @towerbrewingco

Cindy Baker: @sindeevicious

This episode is brought to you by:

-Comedy Night at Crooked Lane! The next show is Thursday, February 20, at Crooked Lane Brewing in Auburn, CA. Tickets are $10 and are available on Eventbrite, at the brewery (536 Grass Valley Hwy, Auburn, CA) or by phone (530) 878-5232. February’s headliner is Chelsea Bearce (YouTube’s “Street Comic”), featuring Chad Opitz and hosted by Roman Spinale.

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Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)

Alternate Intro Music (not featured in this episode): “JamRoc” by Breez (@breeztheartist)

Background Music for this episode provided by: Nipper Brothers (@nipperbrothers)

Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alivingclicheart)